What is the proper response to terror?
Notes on the 11/3/02 meeting of HKPC's Kowloon Branch
Submitted by Steve Palmquist (moderator)
At short notice (just a little over a week), Ken agreed to
introduce the above topic at the 11 March meeting of the
HKPC’s Kowloon Branch. I suggested it to him because, with
his involvement in the Hong Kong Quaker Meeting, I thought
he might value the opportunity to present the Quaker
position on this topic. Only the next morning (12 March)
did I realize that our discussion was held exactly six
months (to the very hour!) from the 9/11 terrorist
tragedies in the USA. The topic originated, however, not
from my wish to think up something timely, but from the
same source as nearly all other topics discussed at the
various HKPC meetings I've organised: it was one of the
topics suggested at the end the previous meeting. (I prefer
this bottom-up method of selecting topics to a more
autocratic, top-down method.) So the topic's timeliness in
this case was just a neat bit of what Jung would
call "synchronicity".
Ken's introduction was, as expected, based on what Quakers
call their "Peace Testimony" - though he emphasised that he
would be using this as a way of raising questions rather
than assuming it holds all the answers. After recalling the
events of 9/11, Ken defined terrorism as "the use of
violence to achieve political aims" (Collins). He noted
that a chief problem this raises is how to identify who the
real terrorists are, since all sides seem to be using
violence in their attempt to achieve political aims. He
recommended we distinguish between three levels of
terrorism: individuals, groups, and nations. Why does
approximately one out of every six persons on earth hate
Americans? One reason is that Americans use more than three-
quarters of the earth's resources, even though they
constitute only a small fraction of the total population.
But an even more significant reason is that the U.S.
government has a history of supporting non-democratic
regimes in order to look after their own interests
(especially oil). The question, then, is: how should we
respond? After reading a number of excerpts from Quaker
literature, Ken suggested five things the U.S. government
could do to improve the current situation: (1) uphold the
rule of law by seeking legal rather than violent solutions;
(2) revise their Middle East policy; (3) forgive the debts
of third world countries; (4) work with third world
countries to solve genuine global problems; (5) give up
their self-styled role of world-domination. He concluded by
reminding us that individuals can also make a difference by
being politically active, and encouraged us to discuss what
we in Hong Kong could do.
The initial question time brought a few surprising twists.
When several people tried to pin Ken down to say what *he*
would do or thinks we should do, his answers were not
always obviously consistent with the Quaker Peace
Testimony. Instead, he repeatedly claimed ignorance on a
number of issues, and, when asked whether he thought
violence could be used in self-defense (as in defending his
family from an attacker), he agreed that it could be. His
view is that the current U.S. policy is using *too much*
violence, without first seeking other ways of solving the
problems, and is failing to create structures of
accountability for its own actions. When someone pointed
out that weapons are necessary in order to enforce the law,
Ken stated that their true purpose is to keep the peace
and/or for self-defense, not for offensive aggression.
Several people noted that we had been focusing so much on
issues relating to 9/11 and its aftermath that we had
ignored various broader, and more philosophical, questions
implied by the title of the discussion, such as: Is it even
possible to have a "proper" response to terror? What role
does religion play in causing and/or responding to terror?
Science? Is it right to curtail the freedom of many in
order to root out the misuse of freedom by a few? Could the
way we respond to *personal* situations that make us afraid
be used as a model for how *governments* should respond to
terrorism?
At this point the 14 attendees split into three groups and
discussed various issues in more detail. The group I was in
(which did not have a chance to air its views during the
closing discussion time) discussed a wide range of issues.
Here are a few insights I gleaned from the discussion: The
ambiguity of words like "terrorism" and even "war" reveal
how important it is, when trying to assess opposing
political stances, to examine the perspective being adopted
by the opposing parties. If there is ever any moral ground
for using violence, it must be based on one's own behavior
being better than one's opponent's; for example, if a
leader of a group or nation preaches democracy but then
turns around and uses undemocratic means of accomplishing
his or her aims, then he loses any justification for
forcing others to follow supposedly democratic laws. Free
and open public debate is a crucial aspect of combating
terror, though ironically, the public media can often have
the opposite effect on people.... We considered one
interesting option to the current U.S. policy of "striking
back": the victim of a terrorist attack could take this as
an opportunity to see things from the opponent's
perspective, and perhaps even to apologize as a result,
rather than to reinforce the absolute truth of one's own
perspective and thus marginalize the opponent still
further; if this were to be done, it would almost certainly
have the result of bringing out the terrorists from their
hiding places, whereas the current U.S. policy has forced
them to become even more intent on hiding than ever before.
During the closing discussion time we mainly discussed
issues raised by one of the other groups. In particular, we
debated whether a person's (or nation's) response to terror
(ism) should be "proportionate" or "disproportionate". The
assumption was that the current U.S. policy is an example
of the latter, and may be regarded as bad for that reason.
At least one person (an American) was vigorously arguing,
however, that this is a wise policy, both for personal and
for governmental application: simply getting rid of the
enemy is the surest way to solve such problems. The
opposing side (including at least one American) argued that
such an approach will inevitably lose public support and
create even further resentment around the world. When
reminded of the "eye for an eye" principle (which, by the
way, is generally regarded by biblical scholars as a
principle originally intended to outlaw the natural human
tendency to make the punishment *more* severe than the
crime), the former person claimed to uphold the maxim: "one
eye for ten eyes!"
Although the introduction was interesting and the
discussion very rousing, I was somewhat disappointed with
this meeting because the potential philosophical content
tended to be eclipsed by an attention to details relating
to various current events. In hopes of closing the meeting
on a more philosophical note, I challenged the proponent of
disproportionate response to terror with the following
thought experiment:
"Imagine that I leave this meeting feeling genuinely afraid
of you as a person because of the view you've just
expressed; now imagine I spend a month thinking about how I
should respond to such a terrifying way of answering
tonight's question, and decide that, indeed, the
only 'proper' response is to take your advice and fight
back disproportionately in order to protect my own
interests. So, as a way of implementing the principle you
have recommended, I come to April's HKPC meeting and,
seeing you here before the meeting starts, I approach you
with a knife and kill you. Now imagine that you could come
back to life and address us again on this issue. Would you
still affirm that I had done the right thing by responding
disproportionately to terror?"
The defender refused to answer this question on the grounds
that I was changing the topic, though nearly everyone else
present seemed to appreciate its force. After several
unsuccessful attempts to draw out an answer, someone
suggested that a *proportionate* response to such
terrifying speech would simply be to cut out the offending
person’s tongue! Ken closed the meeting by simply reminding
us of the simple Quaker position: violence begets violence.
Upon further reflection, it seems to me that our discussion
brought out the significance of Ken's closing statement in
some interesting ways. In my thought experiment, for
example, both the proportionate and the disproportionate
responses were violent. Why? Because in both cases I (the
imaginary I) dealt with my terror NOT by first looking
inward for its source and then asking how I could use this
as an occasion for better understanding my opponent, but
rather as a rationalisation for further isolating myself in
the safe, rational boundaries of my own assumptions by
lashing out against anyone who thinks differently. Sadly,
philosophers down through history have often been no better
than politicians in showing empathy to opposing points of
view. I think the whole realm of *reason* as a tool of
violence would have been interesting to explore.... Perhaps
on another occasion!
As a further footnote to the discussion, I should mention
that, while watching the news on t.v. the next morning, I
heard G.W. Bush say (at a commemorative talk given in
honour of those who died in the 9/11 tragedies): "Those who
have no respect for human life must not be allowed to
control weapons of mass destruction." When I consider
(among other things) Bush’s record in implementing the
death penalty in Texas, and the likelihood that at least
one or two of those he permitted to be killed were
innocent, I cannot but marvel at the self-righteousness
ignorance some politicians can evince, and mourn at the
violence it engenders. Bring on the philosopher-king??